Newbee + Fewbee Friday Afternoon Drive – 22.03.2013
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March 23, 2013 at 5:09 pm #24849quote Ganesh:An awesome turnup of 30+ cars for a Friday afternoon….Great company by all registered members….Special thanks to the sweep team in all the convoys to keep the convoy moving all the time and reach the destination on time…Thank u Matthews and shot gun Paul for all their efforts in rescuing Hotong from the difficult situation at Camel Rock…
Sundar must have got a good training session behind the steering by Paul in handling the dunes while being the second Lead…
Muslim with his AWD Kia was struggling a bit and then broke off his front bumper totally along with his engine cover behind the Fossil Rock…. I STRONGLY recommend both the brothers Faisal Muslim and Hasnain not get their AWD cars to the desert…. We have had experiences with you guys and from now onwards I hope you restrain from these cars in the desert as we do not want our participants to destroy their cars…. Please take care of this point for the future drives….I hope you guys understand the seriousness behind this…
Leo was been shifted from Kuamr’s convoy to mine to experience a bit more driving with the newbees and he was doing well here…. The more you gain experience is better for you to grow up in this business…
After we reached the Camel Rock…everyone wanted to play there for some time and while playing around, Hutong tried to go behind the Camel Rock and then lost control and slided down the dune where he faced the rock in front of him…. It was quite an effort to rescue the car as the front was facing the rock, behind it was a tall dune and the car was in a slant position…..With the help of one Land Cruiser who was just passing by, we pulled him safely from the rear, made the car straight and got him safely out without a single scratch to the car….Special thanks to Paul to take the charge of the steering while rescuing the car….
Then we proceeded towards the Saddle point through the tracks and Sundar got stuck while climbing a soft dune….he had to be pulled off and everyone reached the saddle point where Ashok and Kumar were waiting for us with their respective convoys…..We spent some time watching the hundreds of cars playing around at the saddle point and then decided to move out to the Big Fall with the entire group in a single convoy….
What a sight it was to watch all the cars in a line over the crest of the Big Fall…. Everyone loved the moment and then slowly each car started coming down…. We reached the road, the new bees who didnt have the compressors were taken to the nearest petrol station by Kumar and Ashok for inflating….. rest all inflated their tyres and left back home….
A very good entire day with a couple of very good drives and some great smiling faces at the end of the day….
See you all for yet another thrilling drive maybe in some different area…
Cheers
Marshal Ganesh,with his crisp write up doesn’t leave an inch for us to cover the drive report .
All I could say about the drive was ,
1-Thanks again for the opportunity.
2-Special thanks for having the confidence(atleast pre drive :p ) and allowing me to second-lead which opened up an opportunity for me watch and learn from you :ymhug: It also emphasized the necessity for the lead-follower to observe and move rather than depend on each command from lead over the radio.
3-Good learning opportunity – Maintaining composure at a critical time is most talked about but least practiced. Yesterday I witnessed the practice by you , Paul our Saint & Mathews .Hats off to you guys. BTW, I was amazed at your guts by holding the Defender from a steep angle. Dada should now be re-christened “THE DEFENDER” .
Thanks to Leo , Sami and few other friends ,whose name I couldnt recall off hand, for their valuable contributions in the recovery.
4-Special :thanks: to Paul for hand holding me and the LR. It had a positive impact. While undergoing the “on-the-track” training, I lifted the pressure off the pedal while negotiating the climb and you had to pull me out ๐ :-\ ( @Paul : The Electronic Stability Control ,Traction control & ABS issue will be addressed to ASAP…Tooooooooooo many controls impeding with my driving ….Ooooof what a driver I am B-) Ok ok ok ok I could see atleast 3 ready feedbacks from my friends ๐ก – Lol)
5-One request : To spend more time and have even more fun ,We must plan to leave at the scheduled time on each drive.
:thanks: :drive: Ganesh :thanks: :drive: Kumar :thanks: :drive: Ashok ji :thanks: to all the seniors for the smooth drive
Sorry I didn’t come for the trip, actually planned to meet you guys at the meeting point after going from Al Awir to Fossil Rock, but the kids got car sick so we had too many breaks on the way ๐
So unfortunately we didn’t make it in time.
Hope you got my sms Kumar.quote famvilnes:Sorry I didn’t come for the trip, actually planned to meet you guys at the meeting point after going from Al Awir to Fossil Rock, but the kids got car sick so we had too many breaks on the way ๐
So unfortunately we didn’t make it in time.
Hope you got my sms Kumar.Yes Ole, I got your message in time and thanks for that.
Look forward to see you soon at sands ๐Wow 30 vehicles, some line up for Ganesh’s Friday afternoon drive
Once the entire group had been welcomed and all the drivers identified convoys were set all the guidelines laid out in Marshall Ganesh’s pre drive post. The rest of the report covers convoy 2 lead by Ashok, Iqsaan 2nd lead, David(DVG), Baher, Kash, Carl(Plowboy), Sridhar and myself as sweep. A nice tight group :thanks: Ganesh ๐
The overall drive was at a good level and a very nice combination of small challenges for individual drivers and their machines, through mixed tricky dunes, passing via Fossil & Camel rocks, for a short play, and terminating at the Saddle base for live Friday afternoon coverage of local ‘petrol heads’ strutting their stuff. The entire meet was then lead over to the fall for an awesome dropshot in the gathering dusk. Individuals were then either guided to inflation or inflated and departed :thanks: to Ashok very nice lead and :thanks: to all for participating ๐
The following comments are given from the unique observational position of sweep and are intended as guidance for personal growth in budding sandbugs ๐
FOR YOUR SAFETY AND THAT OF ANY PASSENGER, PLEASE ENSURE THAT EVERBODY IN YOUR VEHICLE IS USING A SEAT BELT Please remember that this is an extreme sport and we need to ALL be as safe as is possible…passengers included :thanks:
Please understand that for reasons of collective security it is important to exercise a modicum of discipline when in a convoy. Please do not deviate from the chosen route unless guided to do so by a Marshall or senior member. If the vehicle you are following is out of sight STOP & USE YOUR RADIO to ask for guidance.
Iqsaan, brother you were trucking, keep up the good work, very nice control ๐
David here’s an opinion on your post below
quote DVG:Unless anyone has a better idea or reasons why I should not pull my ABS fuse for the next drive, please let me know. I failed to climb the side of a relatively simple dune because of a short lip of another dune that flicked the cabin quickly left then right, which activated the stability control [engine power cuts out and ABS activated], which effectively stalled the car mid stream. Self recovered ok, but that was frustrating and can do without that electronic aide while we are out there, I believe.The decision is of course yours, we, FJC drivers, disconnect from source(under the hood) all automatic traction -air bag- ABS and stability control. These are meant to help ‘blacktop’ drivers in on road challenges, the sand can deliver shocks which we, as drivers, must absorb so that we can make our vehicles perform :-ss
Outside of that mate you are a good driver, your motorcycle experience comes to the fore, you do have lots of power at your command, use it wisely.Baher- excellent progress my friend, very nice self recovery. Keep up the good work :-BD
Kash, You have a good ‘handle on the driving, maybe too much power on occasion, work towards keeping the vehicle under control both sides of a crossover
Carl nice driving brother, :thanks: for keeping an eye open for your fellow convoy members
Sridhar, as you willingly admit you were a little rusty, good to allow yourself to be guided therefore. Please never fight gravity in either direction. Your close encounter with the tree was made more difficult every time you applied the brakes my friend. Try not to be so ‘fierce’ with the sand and it will let you through ๐
Be safe a have a good week
quote brianj:Wow 30 vehicles, some line up for Ganesh’s Friday afternoon driveOnce the entire group had been welcomed and all the drivers identified convoys were set all the guidelines laid out in Marshall Ganesh’s pre drive post. The rest of the report covers convoy 2 lead by Ashok, Iqsaan 2nd lead, David(DVG), Baher, Himanshu, Carl(Plowboy), Sridhar and myself as sweep. A nice tight group :thanks: Ganesh ๐
The overall drive was at a good level and a very nice combination of small challenges for individual drivers and their machines, through mixed tricky dunes, passing via Fossil & Camel rocks, for a short play, and terminating at the Saddle base for live Friday afternoon coverage of local ‘petrol heads’ strutting their stuff. The entire meet was then lead over to the fall for an awesome dropshot in the gathering dusk. Individuals were then either guided to inflation or inflated and departed :thanks: to Ashok very nice lead and :thanks: to all for participating ๐
The following comments are given from the unique observational position of sweep and are intended as guidance for personal growth in budding sandbugs ๐
FOR YOUR SAFETY AND THAT OF ANY PASSENGER, PLEASE ENSURE THAT EVERBODY IN YOUR VEHICLE IS USING A SEAT BELT Please remember that this is an extreme sport and we need to ALL be as safe as is possible…passengers included :thanks:
Please understand that for reasons of collective security it is important to exercise a modicum of discipline when in a convoy. Please do not deviate from the chosen route unless guided to do so by a Marshall or senior member. If the vehicle you are following is out of sight STOP & USE YOUR RADIO to ask for guidance.
Iqsaan, brother you were trucking, keep up the good work, very nice control ๐
David here’s an opinion on your post below
quote DVG:Unless anyone has a better idea or reasons why I should not pull my ABS fuse for the next drive, please let me know. I failed to climb the side of a relatively simple dune because of a short lip of another dune that flicked the cabin quickly left then right, which activated the stability control [engine power cuts out and ABS activated], which effectively stalled the car mid stream. Self recovered ok, but that was frustrating and can do without that electronic aide while we are out there, I believe.The decision is of course yours, we, FJC drivers, disconnect from source(under the hood) all automatic traction -air bag- ABS and stability control. These are meant to help ‘blacktop’ drivers in on road challenges, the sand can deliver shocks which we, as drivers, must absorb so that we can make our vehicles perform :-ss
Outside of that mate you are a good driver, your motorcycle experience comes to the fore, you do have lots of power at your command, use it wisely.Baher- excellent progress my friend, very nice self recovery. Keep up the good work :-BD
Himanshu, You have a good ‘handle on the driving, maybe too much power on occasion, work towards keeping the vehicle under control both sides of a crossover
Carl nice driving brother, :thanks: for keeping an eye open for your fellow convoy members
Sridhar, as you willingly admit you were a little rusty, good to allow yourself to be guided therefore. Please never fight gravity in either direction. Your close encounter with the tree was made more difficult every time you applied the brakes my friend. Try not to be so ‘fierce’ with the sand and it will let you through ๐
Be safe a have a good week
Hey Brian!
I think you have got me confused with someone else.
I was in with Kumar’s convoy.Cheers
Himanshuquote Himanshu:quote brianj:Wow 30 vehicles, some line up for Ganesh’s Friday afternoon drive
๐Be safe a have a good week
Hey Brian!
I was in with Kumar’s convoy.
Cheers
HimanshuOOPs got that one wrong big style ๐ :thanks: for the correction Himanshu and the correct info Iqsaan …Team work
The observation stays the same just addressed to a different person :ymhug:
I’ll edit the original post
:thanks: guysAugust 7, 2013 at 6:30 am #27009quote Ganesh:Muslim with his AWD Kia was struggling a bit and then broke off his front bumper totally along with his engine cover behind the Fossil Rock…. I STRONGLY recommend both the brothers Faisal Muslim and Hasnain not get their AWD cars to the desert…. We have had experiences with you guys and from now onwards I hope you restrain from these cars in the desert as we do not want our participants to destroy their cars…. Please take care of this point for the future drives….I hope you guys understand the seriousness behind this…Hello Ganesh and everyone else,
:thanks: Thank you for your concern and advice!!!! Here is a little on what I have been learnt from the trip: http://muslim-offroad.blogspot.com/2013/07/difference-between-nazwa-and-khatam-and.html – wonder if you will agree… The hit was from under the hood and have been advised to simply cover it with a metal undercover and I should not have this problem again.
But I guess you feel differently :(( so will just abide! May be look for another group that is more welcoming to AWDs…
Takecare!
August 7, 2013 at 4:14 pm #27010quote muslimfaisal:Hello Ganesh and everyone else,
:thanks: Thank you for your concern and advice!!!! Here is a little on what I have been learnt from the trip: http://muslim-offroad.blogspot.com/2013/07/difference-between-nazwa-and-khatam-and.html – wonder if you will agree… The hit was from under the hood and have been advised to simply cover it with a metal undercover and I should not have this problem again.
But I guess you feel differently :(( so will just abide! May be look for another group that is more welcoming to AWDs…Takecare!Couple of personal observations Faisal…
A sure way to differentiate between a vehicle designed to go offroad and a vehicle that can ALSO go offroad is the transfer case…any vehicle that does not have a low & High Transfer case would just not make it…when the going gets tough.
This is exactly what happened with your Sorento, since the bumper & the Radiator were obviously not designed for what you were doing.
Another thing is that if something has a dodgy reputation for quality or reliability…there is probably a very good reason for it…and there are probably a lot of unsatisfied customers to vouch for that…and I personally stick to Japanese made cars preferably Toyota or if it is German then a Mercedes Benz…
I would personally steer clear of American or Korean makes…even if they are a tenth of the price…
Last but not the least…a car or any other tool is only 20% of the whole game…80% is you & your skills…so a brilliant car may fail abysmally in the wrong hands & an average car may perform very well with an experienced, skilful driver…So keep Driving & keep learning!!!
๐August 7, 2013 at 11:53 pm #27012Ahsant, thank you Ahmad.
That is reality layered with hope and optimism – I appreciate it a great deal. This is the real taking from the group ๐
:thanks:
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